tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post527843584957949298..comments2022-11-06T06:41:30.462-05:00Comments on Prufrock's Dilemma: Soonest MendedSusan Scheidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09250142489341777926noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-60260548033348427002012-02-05T12:27:36.463-05:002012-02-05T12:27:36.463-05:00Hi Susan .. I really need to come and spend a day ...Hi Susan .. I really need to come and spend a day here - or perhaps fly across the pond and spend that day with you! <br /><br />You offer me so much to learn - wish there were 36 hours in a day!<br /><br />Cheers - HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-5551293833952538462012-02-04T15:43:08.568-05:002012-02-04T15:43:08.568-05:00Sue!
thank you, again, for another savory and ser...Sue! <br />thank you, again, for another savory and serious look at art/music/poetry... You've teased me into a revisiting Ashbery. And who can resists your posts and these links and comments that move us from Ashbery to Wallace Stevens to Billy Collins! brava!Elaine Sextonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-37933328064030526372012-01-29T11:40:19.507-05:002012-01-29T11:40:19.507-05:00So sorry for all the rambling comments, this morni...So sorry for all the rambling comments, this morning -- shall try to restrain myself. <br /><br />All right, I am listening to the Tailleferre, just now. So far, my favorite piece has been, hands down, the Greenstein. In all ignorance, I wonder if you might point me in the direction of more sounds such as this: <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSI4_9OhwV8<br /><br />I need to be quick Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908805179119217608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-91729874880471351982012-01-29T11:24:03.757-05:002012-01-29T11:24:03.757-05:00Looking for the Sitoh and the 'harps' piec...Looking for the Sitoh and the 'harps' piece you recommended ...Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908805179119217608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-23112113681837736282012-01-26T20:23:53.875-05:002012-01-26T20:23:53.875-05:00Peaches: Nice to see you, and thanks for the kind...Peaches: Nice to see you, and thanks for the kind words.<br /><br />Anil: Welcome to PD, and thanks for commenting. I think you've captured something quite interesting about that line.<br /><br />Friko: Quite the rollicking discourse, no question. I feel very lucky to have such thoughtful and perceptive blog companions!Susan Scheidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09250142489341777926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-79964235329240728002012-01-24T13:32:01.491-05:002012-01-24T13:32:01.491-05:00Golly, Susan, haven't I had my eyes opened bot...Golly, Susan, haven't I had my eyes opened both by the post and the comments?<br /><br />Thanks for your advice, I shall definitely persevere with Ashberry. He certainly appears to provoke discourse. Isn't that what it's all about?<br /><br />I shall visit some of your commenters too, a right bright bunch, although a few of them are already sitting pretty on my blogging Mount Olympus.Frikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04277167831642088694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-47786251475519447902012-01-24T13:04:54.746-05:002012-01-24T13:04:54.746-05:00Wonderful post.
to be small and clear and free.
...Wonderful post.<br /><br /><i>to be small and clear and free.</i><br /><br />So that it's easier managing the bits and pieces that get the attention they demand, no, deserve.<br /><br />Before the <i>sum</i> of parts manifests, each of the parts is a <i>whole</i> in itself.Anil Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02422187314611747278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-84851855301952989002012-01-23T11:02:30.616-05:002012-01-23T11:02:30.616-05:00Susie, I'm reading all the comments and I can&...Susie, I'm reading all the comments and I can't help but to congratulate you for having such a wonderful following of people who give so much of their thoughts into what you've written, even as you analyze other people's writing.<br /><br />I like the way you analyze the poem - with clarity and depth.<br /><br />I think I will need someone like you to edit my book before I releasePeaches Ledwidgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13406881743264774589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-40360678465999108932012-01-22T19:33:37.604-05:002012-01-22T19:33:37.604-05:00portraits: You mean you don’t see the thought bub...portraits: You mean you don’t see the thought bubble there, as she wonders whether to forget the whole thing? Well, you know how those poets are, always taking their poetic license and all. As for poetry and prose, these days, I become confused. In responding to Friko, I’ve given a stab at the issue, but, for the most part, I find it’s best for me not to worry about it. If the piece speaks Susan Scheidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09250142489341777926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-3726743958118741782012-01-22T19:32:34.273-05:002012-01-22T19:32:34.273-05:00Britta: Wow, such great insights you bring to the...Britta: Wow, such great insights you bring to the poem. (And, of course, I had a good chuckle at your comment on my occupational hazards.) Love the way you connecting the “fence” line with that in the Rolling Stones. If I’ve read the dates correctly, looks like the poem was published, at least, when Ashbery was about 40. Not old age, but plenty enough time to look back and think, how did I Susan Scheidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09250142489341777926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-74022377771120205932012-01-22T19:31:49.614-05:002012-01-22T19:31:49.614-05:00To all: Well, the conversation that has developed...To all: Well, the conversation that has developed here is fascinating indeed. Thank you all so much! And now to each:<br /><br />Andrew: Short, but sincere: thanks, as always!<br /><br />Friko: So, it seems Mark has come to the rescue on this, better than I ever could, as I’ve only become acquainted with a few Ashbery poems so far. You challenge me (in the best way), to think about what Susan Scheidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09250142489341777926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-12009779314440921702012-01-22T16:26:17.699-05:002012-01-22T16:26:17.699-05:00Ah! Just searched for the Greenstein one the sideb...Ah! Just searched for the Greenstein one the sidebar as the Guthrie drew to a close and it is no longer there! Suppose I must click something altogether different, then. :)Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908805179119217608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-85887693293086878682012-01-22T16:23:18.775-05:002012-01-22T16:23:18.775-05:00'When I am “off duty,” I rebel.'
But what...'When I am “off duty,” I rebel.'<br /><br />But what of rolled trousers, my dear Sue?<br /><br />I have resolved to click every music link embedded in your posts from now on. Listening to the Guthrie and can practically feel my neural pathways being altered.Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908805179119217608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-58492720822815689852012-01-22T09:51:54.417-05:002012-01-22T09:51:54.417-05:00The fact checker in me wonders about the lines:
&...The fact checker in me wonders about the lines:<br /><br />"And Angelica, in the Ingres painting, was considering<br />The colorful but small monster near her toe...."<br /><br />In looking at the painting, I see Angelica gazing upward, seemingly unaware of the monster. Poetic license?<br /><br />In reading Friko's comment, I found myself in accord with her sentiments. I often Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-89499354572766513132012-01-22T00:16:30.673-05:002012-01-22T00:16:30.673-05:00Ah Guthrie--where it all began. Wonderful musical ...Ah Guthrie--where it all began. Wonderful musical selection. It's plain-talk lyrics are a great accompaniment for Ashbery's poems.<br /><br />When I think of modern poets who've tried to bring poetry to the masses, to take the academic mystery (and stigma to some degree) out of it, and make poetry more accessible to all, I immediately think of Billy Collins (who makes me laugh like Jaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06694559900539722616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-16428188484040037862012-01-21T16:00:06.346-05:002012-01-21T16:00:06.346-05:00Hi Susan,
What I really appreciate and admire abou...Hi Susan,<br />What I really appreciate and admire about you is your wealth of knowledge of culture that I would of otherwise not be aware of.<br />The poetry of Ashbery is a revelation to me and I'm grateful to be aware now of such thoughtful poetry.<br />The only part that slightly disappointed me was the reading of Soonest Mended, by John Ahsbery. I thought his tonal inflections could of klahaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613505424843475639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-2551765724507616532012-01-21T08:45:28.218-05:002012-01-21T08:45:28.218-05:00I have a handful of blogging friends who have take...I have a handful of blogging friends who have taken on the task of finding remarkable poetry and art for me, providing my refreshment and leaving me free to bitch and moan about more pedestrian things between visits to their oases. It's a huge service they do me; without them, I can begin to think the world is no better than the nightly news.<br /><br />I add you to my cache of cultural Nancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15166865250789996825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-3406147284619884472012-01-21T05:59:30.823-05:002012-01-21T05:59:30.823-05:00Oh dear, sincere apologies, the typo of the novice...Oh dear, sincere apologies, the typo of the novice - it is John Ashbery I know.wandererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08196036534397389760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-30250924670887134502012-01-21T05:51:04.876-05:002012-01-21T05:51:04.876-05:00Enlist me in the new-to-Ashbury group and I apprec...Enlist me in the new-to-Ashbury group and I appreciate the comment that he may have more resonance with the American psyche. Nonetheless, I will explore him Susan, thank you, and will listen to your and Mr Kerstetter's advice and linger on the water's reflections.<br /><br />There is a strange conundrum in analysis - that often if not always the more one looks the less one sees, until wandererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08196036534397389760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-64794838166806564052012-01-21T00:59:31.273-05:002012-01-21T00:59:31.273-05:00Dear Susan,
thank you for making me acquainted wi...Dear Susan, <br />thank you for making me acquainted with John Ashberry! Even if I hadn't known before what is your profession after your descrition of your work I would now - no need to be a career adviser :-) <br />I will have guests today, so I don't have time enough to write long, but the first that sprung to my mind when I read your article was, surprisingly?, a song of the Rolling Brittahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688373434576442657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-22368962378441751932012-01-20T18:48:44.144-05:002012-01-20T18:48:44.144-05:00Hello Susan:
Well, we feel that we are entering so...Hello Susan:<br />Well, we feel that we are entering something of a brave new world here as we have never seen or read any of John Ashbery's poetry. Indeed, shame to say, that we had not heard of him until today. And so, we shall take small steps for Man and giant leaps for Mankind into a new frontier...!!Jane and Lance Hattatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831890261259302647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-53459656050761376222012-01-20T10:23:38.253-05:002012-01-20T10:23:38.253-05:00Hi,
I liked some of your comments on Solitary Wal...Hi,<br /> I liked some of your comments on Solitary Walkers,so that's why I'm here. I think I can relate to "sense impressions". For me it's a feel. Like a song or a painting. Maybe not too intellectual, but possibly insightful. Ashbery has a nice, clear voice. Kind of strikes me as honest,whether I know what he's talking about or not. Sonny Terry on harp! Entertaining Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17096402329953310721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-58059481614910290852012-01-19T23:28:40.733-05:002012-01-19T23:28:40.733-05:00For my part, there is no way to approach Ashbery e...For my part, there is no way to approach Ashbery except through analysis. His work seems particularly soul-less, and his language strangely ungrounded.<br /><br />I've read his work for years in <i>The New Yorker</i>, and tried - oh, how I've tried! - to appreciate his work. But it's not happening for me. As a matter of fact (and who am I to be saying such things?) - Mark's shoreacreshttp://shoreacres.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-26915111015756132012012-01-19T22:58:23.669-05:002012-01-19T22:58:23.669-05:00A couple of things to thank you for: a) placing th...A couple of things to thank you for: a) placing the poem together with the Ingres and Happy Hooligan and b) the joy of coming here and listening to a bit of Woody Guthrie and now Poulenc - I feel right at home. It's quite Ashberian. Woody is an American artist, and so is Ashbery. His use of the English language is a uniquely American instrument, almost any given poem covering a wide spectrum Mark Kerstetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13307987573435067415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5698728871635545011.post-646619003346182282012-01-19T19:30:23.456-05:002012-01-19T19:30:23.456-05:00Finally, music I know. What can I say, except that...Finally, music I know. What can I say, except that I'm an Okie I guess.<br /><br />I keep seeing threads of writing about time today. I always wonder if it is merely me picking out certain themes in the blog world or if there are indeed certain themes that float around as others pick up on the same things at the same time. <br /><br />Regardless, I like Ashbery. This is the first I've Rubye Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02511953177053448513noreply@blogger.com